This means that while an x motor is more efficient than a psc motor and does a better job of ramping up to overcome static pressure increase it does not have the level of control that a variable speed has and it also does not produce an exact. Troubleshootingrepair before troubleshooting any hvac system, its a good practice to become familiar with the components and wiring diagram, check for. Evergreen 6207e, 230v, multispeed, constant torque standard ecm x re. Put 24 volts to pins 12 and 15 and 24 volt common to pins 1 and 3 at the motor fig. Genteq evergreen 6207e replacement 34 hp 230 volt x furnace blower motor. The difference between variable speed and x motors. In a previous post, i explained what an x constant torque motor is and how they operate. Ac models revert back to jakel square nose inducer. Quiet, efficient x ecm motor technology providing nominal airflow to 0. In most case i have found real high static pressure on these system.
Need help with x genteq motor troubleshooting in a york air handlerheat pump system. The blower motor plays an extremely important role in forcedair systems. On x motor systems as with any blower its also a good practice to check the tap speed selections and delay both on delay, if available. Detail of 1173089 genteq oem replacement x furnace blower motor 12 hp brand. Diagnosing and solving blower motor problems 20151207. Power supplied from the fuse panel passes through the switch to the. Read opinions offers you with a lot of fuller information of the cons and professionals of the 1173091 heil oem replacement x furnace blower motor 34 hp recommendations, you can try to look for item details. Controls humidity by controlling blower and compressor. Problems and premature failures often indicate input power system troubles, poor or deteriorating mechanical installations, or malfunctions in the driven machinery.
Rheem blower motors rheem fan motors rheem replacement. Check for proper line voltage and 24v calls to the proper terminals in the equipment. Motor must be a direct replacement from the manufacturer with respect to voltage and model unit. If the shaft with blower wheel disconnected is difficult to turn with the motor control attached. Do not replace the motor if this is the only problem identified. May 15, 2018 furnace motor replacement with genteq evergreen im motor duration. Dec 07, 2015 blower motor breakdown can be the result of anything from old age to failed bearings, high amp draw, electrical failure in the windings, dirt accumulation, and more. The x blower motor has 5 different leads to choose from to connect on the circuit board for heat and cool blower speed.
Ecm standard speed controller all ecm speed controllers are manufactured by price. Voltage between positions 1 and 4 should be 915 vdc. The difference between variable speed and x motors hvac. This online sellers supply the best and low cost price which included super save shipping in u. I am selling ge genteq oem replacement x motor control. Oct 28, 20 need help with x genteq motor troubleshooting in a york air handlerheat pump system. Knowing how to troubleshoot and diagnose problems with these motors is an essential skill an hvac technician must possess. If the motor does not run, unplug the 16 pin wiring harness from the motor fig.
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Most of it is very common practices you would follow with any motor. It is normal for the motor to rock back and forth on start up. Amh8x amana brand 80% gas furnace, 39 tall, upflowhorizontal left or right, induced draft, new two tone grey painted cabinet and front panels, psc motor, standardized blower decks and a 120v silicon nitride igniter. Motorpro training ecm troubleshooting nidec motor corporation. I would like to have an easy way to change speeds occasionally without the need to remove the front panel. But the cfm delivery data of this blower motor looks like that of an x for every.
The term constant torque defines the type or style of ecm. The nations top hvac distributor gemaire sells this icp 1172987 ge x blower motor, 12 hp, 230v, single phase 1418039187002. A typical hvac motor is the fan motor that circulates air through the household ductwork from either the heat exchanger of the furnace or the air conditioning unit. Is there any way to do that with some sort of an ab switch wired in and. Genteq evergreen intune part 1 of 3 connecting intune to motor genteq evergreen intune part 2 of 3 connecting app to programmer genteq evergreen intune part 3 of 3 how to operate from the app. Read opinions offers you with a lot of fuller information of the cons and professionals of the 1173091 heil oem replacement x furnace blower motor 34 hp recommendations, you can try. Optional blower motor 3 spd psc motor of fuel cabinet blower motor speed taps configuation e electric furnace 30 33 and hp input kw cabinet height coil cabinet type type of furnace heating furnace. If you start at the blower motor, and check resistance in the circuit, you will find the problem in no time. Click on shop parts, or select the kind of product youre working with on the left and well help you find the right part. I show you where to measure for low and high voltage, what changes from one manufacturer to another, a common problem with the ecm motor communicating with the control board in the furnace or air. Verify continuity of windings motor leads to unpainted motor end plate.
Unfollow x blower motor to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. You need to make sure you replace an x motor with the correctly programmed motor. But, what i have noticed is these x motors will not last long on a bad duct system. The ge ecm troubleshooter contains its own instructions for use and is available only from carrierbryant distributors. Specifics for troubleshooting an hvac motor home guides. If a motor has a 120 vac power cable with a jumper and 240277 vac is supplied to the motor it will be destroyed.
Universal replacement options for x and selectech nidec motor. Knowing how to troubleshoot and diagnose problems with. Oct 27, 2012 before we get into troubleshooting, i think it is important to understand what an x motor is and why they are used. The most common symptom of a faulty blower motor resistor is a blower fan that only works on one speed, usually high. Do not operate the motor without blower wheel attached. Each ecm or x motor can come from the manufacturer programmed which they shouldbeable to order direct from the manufacturer, or it can come out with no program in it and would need to be programmed locally either by them of by their disrtributor. X is a brand name for the regal beloit genteq brand of constant torque motors, there are other manufacturers who make them, but the term x has become pretty much synonymous for the fractional horsepower hvac constant torque motor. If the motor does not run, replace the motor module. Also, this article is specifically discussing the common residentiallight commercial motors. Now that you understand what it is, now we can discuss how to properly troubleshoot the x motor. How to troubleshoot a blower motor resistor it still runs. Rheem rbhp24j11sh4 rbhp series multiposition air handler. This installationservice manual enables a qualified technician to install, service. Resolving furnace and ac rfiradio frequency interference.
This includes air conditioners, heat pumps, and furnaces. Before we get into troubleshooting, i think it is important to understand what an x motor is and why they are used. In heat mode, blower on time is fixed at 45 seconds, blower off time is adjustable from 60, 90, 120 and 180 seconds factory setting 90 seconds. Dec 12, 2018 here is the general process to follow when checking an ecm and x motor that isnt running. Step by step troubleshooting of a 240v blower fan motor 3 speed, 1 phase. X motors, like full ecm motors have a factory program in them for the specific model.
Blowers in older furnaces generally employ singlespeed permanent split capacitor psc motors while many newer furnaces use variablespeed electronically commutated motors ecms. Electronically commutated motors the star supply company. Our book troubleshooting a genteq x blower fan motor step by step in a heater or air handler. Vac to the motor with the jumper in positions 1 and 2.
Air volumes in bold require field fab ricated transition to accommodate 20 x 25 x 1 in. Step 1adaptive heating modesinglestage thermostat with 2stage heating. Please send me a message stating what the make and model of your ac system is along with the horsepower of your motor very important. Polyphase ac induction motor troubleshooting guide. I have had a few that the customers where on there 3. The evergreen em was designed to replace directdrive blower motors in r. However it is recommended that the whole blower assembly, with the motor, be removed from the furnaceair handler. When replacing the x motor with a belly band for mounting, the band should not be located in the area as to cover the venting. Blower door must be installed for power to be conducted through blower door interlock switch ilk to furnace control cpu, transformer tran, inducer motor idm, blower motor blwm, hot surface ignitor hsi, and gas valve gv. When i place a demand on the system the outdoor unit will power on and operate as usual but the air handler blower motor will not power on. North syracuse, ny 212 timing chart notes if the jumper is removed, the control will default to a 150 second blower off. Our book in this hvac ecm blower motor video, i go over the genteq x wiring connections, what. If all the taps are programmed, you can try moving the 24 volt input from one tap to another to see if the motor will operate.
Using this system, over 200 different programmed motors and modules can be created on an asneeded basis. Indoor blower motors this tool will accurately diagnose this motor this tool is not applicable to this motor na y the tecmate xl is no longer available. It is usually not necessary to remove the motor from the blower assembly. Page 4 blower data page 5 page 6 page 7 page 8 page 9 page 10 page 11 page 12 page page 14 page 15 page 16 page 17 page 18 page 19 page 20 page 21 page 22 page 23 g61mpv parts arrangement page 24 control box page 25 two stage. Voltage symbols vary among different multimeters and may. Part number part description part link 10b67 lennox 10b67 ecm 5. Do not strike the motor shaft with a hammer or other tool as this may damage the bearings.
The filter plugs directly into the control port of the ecm motor, and the wire harness plugs into. Rheem x blower motor speed change automation the x blower motor has 5 different leads to choose from to connect on the circuit board for heat and cool blower speed. For instance, on a fan powered terminal equipped with a merv. These motors represent the largest volume of variable speed motors used to date in hvac oem indoor blower motor applications. Check for proper control signal entering the motor from the 24v field wiring or boards.
Newly installed rheem ac and gas furnace rapm048jez, rgpt07ebrqr. Ecm, ge commercial motors and ge capacitors logos on all branded. Electric furnace model specifications available blower motors 1. Its the trigger that circulates conditioned air throughout the home. Ge ecm by regalbeloit introduced the constant torque motor model x to the residential hvac industry split systems and package systems 5 ton or less in 2006. Here is the general process to follow when checking an ecm and x motor that isnt running. Jun 27, 2016 i show you where to measure for low and high voltage, what changes from one manufacturer to another, a common problem with the ecm motor communicating with the control board in the furnace or air. There is no wiggle room on todays high efficiency units. Genteq evergreen intune part 3 of 3 how to operate from the app genteq evergreen intune with evergreen em and cm motors genteq evergreen intune wirelessly dial in system performance. The xs do not have a module and they have spade terminals on the plugs. Nov 04, 2012 program means they would need tohave a computerized program put into the motor to match the model number of the furnace. You just cannot throw one of these system together any more. After performing various tests i think the problem is with the motor or the motor control, not the air handler control.
Icp 1172987 ge x blower motor, 12 hp, 230v, single. Without the blower wheel, the motor will run continuously to a maximum speed and then stop. For airconditioning applications, blower on time is 2 seconds following thermostat demand for cooling. Blower parts 39 dgam 1 1468220p motor dgat, dlas 057, 070, 075 1 7966311p motor 090 1 1468212p motor 40 all 1 7966a530 scroll 41 all 1 27024091 motor mount3pkg. It can adjust the air flow depending on what the system is getting for feedback. The regal beloit blower motor rfi filter after i confirmed the manufacturer genteq, manufactured by regal beloit and model sn, regal beloit provided a custom rfifilter for the ecm 3. An x motor is programmed to produce a set motor torque based on which input it is receiving 24v. You can find interesting solutions and innovations by clicking on the links below. Within 15 feet of any electric space heater section viii. Therefore, motor troubleshooting involves the entire system, not just the. Motor, blower and furnace startup section selecting the x blower speed this furnace uses the new x high efficiency motor. Dec 29, 2011 x motor diagnostics model x standard ecm motor diagnostics.
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